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  • elliotbudnick and jimshear are now friends   2 years, 10 months ago · View

  • Elliot posted on the forum topic
    Instructor certification — discount details!   3 years, 8 months ago · View

    Isa,
     
    You are a very eloquent writer.  Also a good business woman
    to have built the business you have created.  There is nothing wrong with
    that.  Not in the least.  I have performed with some of the people
    you have helped and they are beautiful performers.

     
    I think you are striking a nerve with the idea of a
    certification for training  flow arts.  Not with your products. 
    Not with your business plan.  For those of us who have participated in
    them for many years it is not a business, it is personal. 

     
    It  is personal because it is a our history and roots. 
    This is not something we went to a school to learn.  We were taught by
    people who were close to us.  Closer than our family in many cases.  It
    is a connection to a group, the tribe.  We were taught by our fan/flag
    mothers and fathers.  Not by a trained instructor.  Not by someone we
    paid.   We were taught by our family.  It was taught out of
    love.  It was inclusive and exclusive in many ways.

     
    Maybe it is because of the times that we were first exposed to fans
    primarily.  Fans were the first exposure to the “spin arts”
    for many people of my generation.  Poi was something they did at the
    Polynesian shows. 

     
    Our fans were bound with a strip of leather from our (for me)fan
    fathers.  It was a very deep emotional bond formed at early stages and
    early life years.  These were people who helped guide us through our times
    of self discovery.  That is why people (myself included) may be disturbed by
    the concept of being certified.  It removes the personal connection that
    we feel with our art.  Something we were doing prior to any companies
    existing to show us the way.  Something we were doing in discotheques and
    in the streets before there was a Burning Man or other now more mainstream environments. 
    We were the outsiders.

     
    I have tried to carry that sense of love, of giving.  Many
    sets of flags have left my hands and been given, with some instruction, to many
    people in several cities.   I realize that very few people these days
    have the opportunity to learn from others the way we once did.  Although I
    have never met a flagger who was not more than happy to help you learn a new
    move or share techniques.  I have held and assisted with tie dye and flag
    making seminars.  They fulfill a need for many people who would not
    otherwise get that opportunity to learn. 

     
    I understand where you are coming from.  And I do not want
    to get involved in a long extended diatribe about this.  I thought maybe
    you may want to hear another perspective why this is something that could be
    upsetting to others

     
    I would be surprised if some others did not have similar
    feelings after reading the post.  Maybe I am wrong?

     
    Elliot
     
    Ps….It’s all good!  J
     
     
     
     
     

    From:
    SpinTribe@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SpinTribe@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of GlitterGirl

    Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 2:59 PM

    To: SpinTribe@yahoogroups.com

    Subject: Re: [SpinTribe] Re: Instructor certification — discount
    details!

     

    And hey, now that i’ve been publicly called out, i guess i’ll get

    on my soap box for a second because really, i’m so sick of people

    judging me for being a capitalist.

    you know what is great about capitalism? Opportunity.

    Capitalism is based on value for value exchange. That is, i sell

    what i have to sell, and if you think there is value, you buy it.

    If you don’t think there is value, well then, you simply don’t buy

    it, do you?

    what that also means is i wouldn’t be successfully in business for

    6.5 years if i had such a money grubbing product that wasn’t of

    value to offer, would I? People wouldn’t come back and pay more,

    would they? it wouldn’t be the case that more than 60% of my

    clients are repeat clients, would it?

    what capitalism makes possible in the world is a place where

    everyone can offer whatever it is they have to offer — which

    means anyone can find a way to make a living as long as they can

    fill a demand in the market place and are willing to do the work

    necessary to make it happen.

    there is a high demand for quality education out there — someone

    who can give you the distictions of, say, how to perform a weave

    behind the back and teach you the correct sequence of movements

    necessary to create that pattern. whatever word you use to

    describe that (art, instruction, hobby, performance, guidance,

    coaching, somantic movement therapy, etc.), it is still a service

    that is quite useful to people who want that level of

    distinction.

    You may not be someone interested in that. That does not make me

    wrong for offering that service. Nor does it make the 1150+

    (mostly repeat) clients i’ve had wrong for using such a service.

    For anyone to sit around and publicly criticize me as a money

    grubbing <you fill in the blank> for literally changing the lives

    of hundreds of people for the better is really fascinating. Who

    exactly do you think you are to be judging ANYONE else? Wow… I’m

    blown away.

    Peggy and anyone else sitting there thinking Peggy is "right": I

    invite you to examine your judgments and open your heart. You may

    not LIKE what i’m doing — and i have no issue with that — but I

    have a right to do it and people have a right to pay for it. Your

    judgment does NOTHING to support anyone and simply propagates

    negative judgmental energy into the world. Is that who you want to

    show up as, really?

    And just because i want to be clear about what i mean by changing

    client’s lives, here’s some testimonials from people, starting

    with one from a member of _THIS_ community:

    "When I was a kid, I wish P.E. had been taught like the classes

    here at the Temple of Poi. I grew up thinking I was relatively

    uncoordinated. But I’ve learned here that it doesn’t matter how

    coordinated I am compared to anyone else; I can do things I never

    imagined that I could, with whatever coordination I have."

    ~D. Van Olst; August, 2005

    "I am so blessed to have found an amazing teacher to help me grow

    and develop as a poi dancer and performer. Before taking poi

    classes with Isa, I would have never performed in public and now

    I’ve performed twice in Union Square and once at Burning Man. I’m

    ready for my next challenge and performance. Poi is changing the

    world, one spinner at a time. If you want to bring poi into your

    life, Isa is one of the best teachers around. Thanks for

    everything Isa, I love you! :) "

    ~ M. Weinberg; December 2007

    "Every night after I leave your class I feel more empowered."

    ~ A.Shuttleworth; November, 2004

    "Poi is definitely difficult to teach, it demands patience, grace,

    assertiveness, and constructive honesty every second of the class,

    which is no small feat. Isa Isaacs is the Jedi Knight of Poi

    teachers. A Poi Master and a true Grand Teacher in the arcane

    samurai sense. Some teachers learn how to teach while

    teaching—but Isa has taught over a 1000 students at her school,

    Temple of Poi, and she takes the art of teaching seriously… Isa

    teaches by demonstrating the poi move, and then breaks it down

    into steps, the most difficult thing to do in Poi, knowing EXACTLY

    what … you are doing, and being able to explain it. Even cooler,

    she hands out these cute little black books, so that you can write

    down the moves in her mathematical Poi shorthand."

    ~T. Harrison; May, 2007

    "I can’t speak highly enough about the classes I took over the

    past few weeks. The breadth and depth of my moves, flow, and

    dance capabilities have totally improved, and I’m having more fun

    than ever spinning! Many thanks for running a top notch learning

    environment."

    ~ S. Familian; November, 2007

    "You are a beautiful example of how helping each other enables us

    to be lifted to higher places in such a short period of time."

    ~K. Werner; August, 2005

    "…thank you for introducing me to the world of fire dancing. I

    had my first experience with fire last Wednesday night in Sparky’s

    class and it was just magic! The first spin you do with lit poi…

    hearing that giant "Woosh!" as they go by… words are

    insufficient to describe the emotions I experienced at that

    moment. For once, everything else going on in the world melted

    away and the only thing left was an intense awareness of myself

    and the fire. At that moment, all seemed right in the world, like

    it was meant to be. As I sit here and fumble for words to express

    my gratitude and excitement and torrent of emotions, I feel rather

    helpless. I know you understand what I mean. Thank you for sharing

    this wonderful gift"

    ~A. Corley; March, 2006

    "Thanks for setting a standard and for being a teacher who teaches

    about the learning process; that’s worth more than the 5 beat

    weave. I’m looking forward to the next class."

    ~K. Moore; July, 2005

    "You know I am very very impressed with the empire you have built.

    Very fun and professional, good method, good attitude, good

    people. Good prices."

    ~E. David; November, 2005

    change is useful.

    isa "glittergirl" isaacs

    founder, temple of poi

    415.543.4911

    On Sun Sep 14 12:57:50 CDT 2008, Peggy Weitzman

    <fannygirl@…>
    wrote:

    >

    >

    >

    >

    > I choose to believe that this offer is a joke.

    >

    > " I’m writing to let you know about a program to help you turn

    > your

    > Spinning

    >> hobby into a money making adventure "

    >

    > I do have hobbies such as skiing, reading, and stone sculpting.

    > My ART

    > is the creation of fans and flags and dancing with them.

    >

    > "> – a comprehensive breakdown of your roles as a business owner

    > and

    > operator

    >> (as well as instructor), including sales, marketing, finance

    >

    > So after reading the entire offer several times, I am choosing to

    > believe that this is just a bad attempt at humor and that Isa

    > (aka

    > Glitter Girl) is really not an opportunistic, money grubbing

    > __________

    > you fill the blank.

    >

    >

    >

    > — In SpinTribe@yahoogroups.com,
    GlitterGirl <glitter@…> wrote:

    >>

    >> Whoops. I had meant to mention that members of this community

    >> (mention

    > you

    >> found out about the training on the spin tribe list) qualify for

    >> a

    > discount

    >> for the certification program course — please contact me

    >> directly for

    >> details. :)

    >>

    >> —

    >> Greeting community!

    >>

    >> I’m writing to let you know about a program to help you turn your

    > Spinning

    >> hobby into a money making adventure — If you are an

    >> intermediate or

    > beyond

    >> spinning artist and you:

    >>

    >> – want to give back to the community

    >> – want to improve the quality of flow arts education

    >> – are interested in understanding how to manage the business and

    > client

    >> relationship aspects of teaching flow arts

    >> – want to teach using a proven method that gets unprecedented

    >> results

    >>

    >> Then join us for the Temple of Poi Instructor Certification

    >> Training

    > being

    >> offered October 24-26, 2008 in San Francisco, California.

    >>

    >> Temple of Poi is pleased to announce the first Instructor

    > Certification

    >> Training Program for poi (the same techniques work for flagging

    >> — ask

    > Dan

    >> V!) instructors, offering:

    >>

    >> – a comprehensive breakdown of your roles as a business owner and

    > operator

    >> (as well as instructor), including sales, marketing, finance and

    > client

    >> relationship management skills

    >> – exercises specifically designed to assist you in clarifying

    >> your

    > mission

    >> and vision

    >> – in depth analysis of the structure of the course curriculum

    >> discussion and development of techniques appropriate to various

    > learning

    >> styles

    >> – analysis, coaching and technique improvement sessions over the

    > course of

    >> the training

    >> – sales and marketing training

    >> – a private coaching session with GlitterGirl (founder of Temple

    >> of

    > Poi,

    >> operating since 2002) to provide specific coaching just for you

    >>

    >> And much more!

    >>

    >> Details and registration are available on the Temple of Poi Web

    >> site!

    >>

    >> –

    >>

    >> Isa "GlitterGirl" Isaacs

    >> Founder, Temple of Poi

    >> 415.424.8581 (voice mail)

    >>

    >

    >

    >

  • elliot posted on the forum topic
    HEy there…   4 years, 7 months ago · View

    Pedro…..
     
    Coliseum, Boom and VooDoo Lounge all have stages and
    blacklights.

     
    At the Coliseum, the stage is for flaggers/fanners and
    performers ONLY.  This weekend I believe Manny is spinning. 

     
    The stage at Boom is narrow and dancers are allowed up onto it. 
      Unfortunately, many of the dancers will not move aside for you to spin,  instead
    they will intentionally get in your way.  Also, they frequently do not
    understand English if you ask them to move aside for a moment.

     
    VooDoo can be fun depending on who is spinning.  They have a “ceiling
    of blacklights” over the stage.  So it can look quite fierce at times.

     
    Say hey if you see us out and about!!
     
    Elliot

  • elliotbudnick and ryanwilcox are now friends   4 years, 7 months ago · View

  • elliot posted on the forum topic
    Black Party flow of the evening-working out the colors with Mykel   5 years, 2 months ago · View

    Mykel,
     
    I do not have any flags that are a plain
    color as you mentioned.  Is this going to be an issue?

     
    Elliot
     
     

    From: SpinTribe@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SpinTribe@yahoogroups.com] On
    Behalf Of
    Access Central TV Team

    Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007
    6:43 PM

    To: SpinTribe@yahoogroups.com

    Cc: bpfanners2007@…

    Subject: [SpinTribe] Black Party
    flow of the evening-working out the colors with Mykel

     

    Hey Peggy and flagging community!
     
    Mykel here, I was asked to help coordinate(recommended by Phil
    Kimball) the flow of the evening with everyone, which will no doubt help
    Saint’s At Large execute their NASCAR theme for this year.
     
    For those who don’t know me, I am an entertainer and flagging fellow of
    Axis Danz and have performed at various venues, parades, etc… and was
    recommended to help out with the "look" of the night. http://www.mykel.info I have probably flagged with
    you at some pier dance too!
     
    Following is a timeline of colors they would like you all to bring
    forth to spin and flail that will go in line with the projections they intend
    to have going up:
     
    10PM-2:30AM green flags

    2:30-4 yellow flags

    4-6 red flags

    6-10 black

    10-10:30 white (for the ticker tape
    throwing)

    10:30-end checkered flags

    (NOTE:there’s prime flagging space on the stage
    next the bleachers.)
     
    Now, my immediate question to the community, does anyone NOT have a color
    (or a cousin of the colors mentioned)? Start thinking what colors you have, don’t have and what slots you can most fill!!! 
     
    I am going to inquire about the BLACK flags for 6-10 slot.  
    I will see if the lighting will provide something consistent for BLACK
    flags and  through out the party.
     
    Peggy I have mentioned that you are doing a fabulous job taking care of
    letting us know what we need to do, what do you think of posting a "color
    chart" for the flagger/fanners who may not get this email coorespondence
    in the dressing room area?
     
    Ok if you can folks please forward this communication out and check
    back in for any updates.  I am very confident ya’ll are gonna work it out!
     
    Best,
     
    Mykel

    Peggy Weitzman <fannygirl@earthlink.net> wrote:

    Hello to all!

    To answer a few question….

    To gain stage and dressing room access your "pass" will be your

    fans/flags. There is no written list this year. You will NOT be allowed

    entrance to either area without your "pass".

    As always, there is no charge for using the dressing rooms other than

    your cooperation and help in policing the space.

    We are a responsible group of adults. The only way to continue to have

    this privilege is to behave well.

    I have arranged to have SAL security at the top of the dressing room

    stairs all night, however I have promised that we will take care of

    ourselves downstairs. Party hearty, but remember that the dressing

    rooms are our home for the night.

    Thanking you in advance for your help as I will be asking for it!!!

    If you need me, please use the following e-dress…

    bpfanners2007@yahoo.com

    Peggy

    ps – please pass this on to your mailing lists!

     


  • elliotbudnick and jimhauck are now friends   5 years, 2 months ago · View

  • elliotbudnick posted on the forum topic
    Saving money – buy Dharma blue instead of Pylam   5 years, 4 months ago · View

    Don…..is it a dye additive? I am intrigued that it is a powder and not a liquid. Maybe it would not make the dyes clump? Your right it is worth some investigation at least.

    Elliot

  • elliotbudnick posted on the forum topic
    Saving money – buy Dharma blue instead of Pylam   5 years, 4 months ago · View

    Careful about mixing your optic whitener nto the dye directly. It can cause the dye to clump and clog your bottles. The optic whitener is like "bleach plus" and is supposed to be used as a pre-treat.

    Just my 2 cents worth….. :)

  • elliot posted on the forum topic
    Dallas Pride is Sunday, September 17   5 years, 8 months ago · View

    Hi all.  Hope everyone had a festive and safe summer!
     
    We are heading to the Washington DC area this coming Friday and will only be there for 1 night (and then family commitments).  Is there anyplace to go for fun/flags/dancing on a Friday in DC?
     
    Any suggestions would be appreciated.  :)
     
    Elliot and Marty
  • elliot_budnick posted on the forum topic
    Flagging in Orlando   5 years, 8 months ago · View

    Try a place called Firestone. It is in downtown Orlando (not to be confused
    with Downtown Disney).

    Elliot
    >
    > From: "Jim Hauck" <juicyfruitjim@…>
    > Date: 2006/09/11 Mon PM 08:03:48 EDT
    > To: <SpinTribe@yahoogroups.com>
    > Subject: [SpinTribe] Flagging in Orlando
    >
    > Heading off to a business trip in Orlando – but will be there Friday and
    > Saturday night this week.
    >
    > Any good places to dance and flag while there?
    >
    > Jim "Juicy Fruit" Hauck
    > San Francisco, CA
    > http://www.juicyfruitjim.com
    > http://www.playafairies.com
    > http://www.flaggercentral.com/go.php?g=1948
    >
    > )’(
    >
    >
    >

  • elliot_budnick posted on the forum topic
    youtube   5 years, 10 months ago · View

    You go boy!  Singing and flagging!!!!
     
    Elliot


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  • elliot_budnick posted on the forum topic
    Flagging Pride San Francisco   5 years, 11 months ago · View

    Xavier…….do tell.  How many sections makes up the 350 yards??  That really caught my attention!!  Are they wall banners/hangings/backdrops? 
     
    Elliot


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  • elliotbudnick posted on the forum topic
    Mixing Acid Dyes Vinegar or Water?   5 years, 11 months ago · View

    It needs to be a process that would open the "pores" of the silk. Will soda ash work on silk? When working with cottons you process with the soda ash prior to the dying and use urea for processing and fixing.

    Has anyone tried using the urea in the mix? I have not.

    Elliot

  • elliot_budnick posted on the forum topic
    Ft. Lauderdale   6 years, 1 month ago · View

    Another opinion:
     
    I suggest Coliseum on Friday ONLY if you enjoy a college nightish enviroment.  Friday nights down here tend to not be very clubby.  Boom on Friday and Saturday go to Coliseum.   
     
    Show your flags to the doorman at Coliseum and you should get a ticket for free entry.  An added plus at Coliseum is that the stage is reserved for flaggers and other performers.  So, plenty of room!! 
     
    Boom has a very cool mirrored ball….with spikes.  Unfortunately, at Boom the dancers have stage access and tend to suddenly not speak English when you say excuse me (even though club management likes flaggers).  Frequently we end up feeling rather unwelcome and get the heck out.


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  • elliotbudnick and donbaker are now friends   6 years, 3 months ago · View

  • elliot_budnick posted on the forum topic
    Newbie   6 years, 7 months ago · View

    A friend is the best.

    What part are you uncertain about…..


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  • elliot_budnick posted on the forum topic
    question   6 years, 8 months ago · View

    It completely depends on the mood.  Whether full open or more in a “rag” style…….basically I work the whole edge.


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  • elliot_budnick posted on the forum topic
    energy without liquid?   7 years, 1 month ago · View

    Go to Starbucks or such place and look there for starts. I don’t know if
    they are still around, but there was a mint called Penguins that were
    heavily caffed. Just be careful about the sugars in a lot of the mints!

  • elliot_budnick posted on the forum topic
    New Sunday night venue- SF   7 years, 1 month ago · View

    How was the new venue?  How was Tony?
  • elliot_budnick posted on the forum topic
    Souvenir Shirt   7 years, 2 months ago · View

    On the note of missing clothes. I apparently left a black tank top with an
    embroidered design on the front and a scarf at Roseland. Did anyone find
    them?

    Elliot

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