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  • Avatar Image 8 years, 2 months said ago:

    From flagnazi2003:

    Phillip:

    What a beautiful website. It has it all. And the more people who
    create a space on it the more it will have.

    http://www.flaggerboy.com

    Thanks for the communal spirit.

    Fred

  • Avatar Image 8 years, 2 months said ago:

    From jim riordan:

    Flagnazi
    your name offends me
    I do not wish to be connected “in spirit” or otherwise to anyone who would choose to use such a hateful noun.

    –jimmy

    flagnazi2003 <flagnazi2003@…> wrote:

    Phillip:

    What a beautiful website.  It has it all.  And the more people who
    create a space on it the more it will have.

    http://www.flaggerboy.com

    Thanks for the communal spirit.

    Fred



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  • Avatar Image 8 years, 2 months said ago:

    From Wes:

    Was that really necessary to "share" with the group?

    Wes

    — In SpinTribe@yahoogroups.com, jim riordan <riojimmy@y…> wrote:
    > Flagnazi
    > your name offends me
    > I do not wish to be connected "in spirit" or otherwise to anyone
    who would choose to use such a hateful noun.
    >
    > –jimmy
    >
    > flagnazi2003 <flagnazi2003@y…> wrote:
    > Phillip:
    >
    > What a beautiful website. It has it all. And the more people who
    > create a space on it the more it will have.
    >
    > http://www.flaggerboy.com
    >
    > Thanks for the communal spirit.
    >
    > Fred
    >
    >
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  • Avatar Image 8 years, 2 months said ago:

    From flagnazi2003:

    Apologies, no offense intended.

    Fred

    — In SpinTribe@yahoogroups.com, "Wes" <wesedwards@a…> wrote:
    > Was that really necessary to "share" with the group?
    >
    > Wes
    >
    > — In SpinTribe@yahoogroups.com, jim riordan <riojimmy@y…>
    wrote:
    > > Flagnazi
    > > your name offends me
    > > I do not wish to be connected "in spirit" or otherwise to anyone
    > who would choose to use such a hateful noun.
    > >
    > > –jimmy
    > >
    > > flagnazi2003 <flagnazi2003@y…> wrote:
    > > Phillip:
    > >
    > > What a beautiful website. It has it all. And the more people
    who
    > > create a space on it the more it will have.
    > >
    > > http://www.flaggerboy.com
    > >
    > > Thanks for the communal spirit.
    > >
    > > Fred
    > >
    > >
    > >
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  • Avatar Image 8 years, 2 months said ago:

    From Michael H. Lubetsky:

    Wes: I think that Jimmy’s comments are completely appropriate to be shared
    with the group. Someone who enters a public discussion casually bearing the
    moniker of an organisation which exterminated millions of people deserves a
    public rebuke. I add that the Nazis’ sadism and bloodlust specifically
    targeted gay people, who make up a large percentage of the SpinTribe
    community. Jimmy’s offense is fully justified and and I suspect shared by
    many.

    Fred: I am sure that you chose the term "Nazi" simply to emphasize your
    zeal for flagging, and don’t have any desire to toss gays, Jews, and gypsies
    into gas chambers. Nevertheless, this is what "Naziism" stands for, and I
    would ask to consider changing your handle. How on earth would you react if
    someone showed up at a club spinning a pair of red flags emblazoned with
    black swastikas?

    –Mike

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    Forget regret, or life is yours to miss.
    No other road, no other way,
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    >From: "flagnazi2003" <flagnazi2003@…>
    >Reply-To: SpinTribe@yahoogroups.com
    >To: SpinTribe@yahoogroups.com
    >Subject: [SpinTribe] Re: Flaggerboy Website
    >Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 01:38:38 -0000
    >
    >Apologies, no offense intended.
    >
    >Fred
    >
    >
    >
    >— In SpinTribe@yahoogroups.com, "Wes" <wesedwards@a…> wrote:
    > > Was that really necessary to "share" with the group?
    > >
    > > Wes
    > >
    > > — In SpinTribe@yahoogroups.com, jim riordan <riojimmy@y…>
    >wrote:
    > > > Flagnazi
    > > > your name offends me
    > > > I do not wish to be connected "in spirit" or otherwise to anyone
    > > who would choose to use such a hateful noun.
    > > >
    > > > –jimmy
    > > >
    > > > flagnazi2003 <flagnazi2003@y…> wrote:
    > > > Phillip:
    > > >
    > > > What a beautiful website. It has it all. And the more people
    >who
    > > > create a space on it the more it will have.
    > > >
    > > > http://www.flaggerboy.com
    > > >
    > > > Thanks for the communal spirit.
    > > >
    > > > Fred

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  • Avatar Image 8 years, 2 months said ago:

    From jim riordan:

     

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    “Michael H. Lubetsky” <mlubetsky@…> wrote:
    Wes:  I think that Jimmy’s comments are completely appropriate to be shared
    with the group.  Someone who enters a public discussion casually bearing the
    moniker of an organisation which exterminated millions of people deserves a
    public rebuke.  I add that the Nazis’ sadism and bloodlust specifically
    targeted gay people, who make up a large percentage of the SpinTribe
    community.  Jimmy’s offense is fully justified and and I suspect shared by
    many.

    Fred:  I am sure that you chose the term “Nazi” simply to emphasize your
    zeal for flagging, and don’t have any desire to toss gays, Jews, and gypsies
    into gas chambers.  Nevertheless, this is what “Naziism” stands for, and I
    would ask to consider changing your handle.  How on earth would you react if
    someone showed up at a club spinning a pair of red flags
    emblazoned with
    black swastikas?

    –Mike

    “There’s only now, there’s only this.
    Forget regret, or life is yours to miss.
    No other road, no other way,
    NO DAY BUT TODAY!”
                                    (Rent)





    >From: “flagnazi2003″ <flagnazi2003@…>
    >Reply-To: SpinTribe@yahoogroups.com
    >To: SpinTribe@yahoogroups.com
    >Subject: [SpinTribe] Re: Flaggerboy Website
    >Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 01:38:38 -0000
    >
    >Apologies, no offense intended.
    >
    >Fred
    >
    >
    >
    >— In SpinTribe@yahoogroups.com, “Wes” <wesedwards@a…> wrote:
    > > Was that really necessary to “share” with the group?
    > >
    > > Wes
    > >
    > > — In SpinTribe@yahoogroups.com, jim riordan
    <riojimmy@y…>
    >wrote:
    > > > Flagnazi
    > > > your name offends me
    > > > I do not wish to be connected “in spirit” or otherwise to anyone
    > > who would choose to use such a hateful noun.
    > > >
    > > > –jimmy
    > > >
    > > > flagnazi2003 <flagnazi2003@y…> wrote:
    > > > Phillip:
    > > >
    > > > What a beautiful website.  It has it all.  And the more people
    >who
    > > > create a space on it the more it will have.
    > > >
    > > > http://www.flaggerboy.com
    > > >
    > > > Thanks for the communal spirit.
    > > >
    > > > Fred

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  • Avatar Image Amanda Fetrow8 years, 2 months said ago:

    I would like to talk of Phillip’s website, I am so
    happy that someone has put together a site where
    flaggers are able to create their own profile and
    interact with other flaggers on a different medium.
    I love spin tribe because it allows me to stay
    connected with the community. The flaggerboy website
    allows me to see everyone and learn more about them,
    their style, what drew them to the art, and who
    inspired them.. I believe that Phillip has created
    something truely beautiful!

    Amanda

    — Carlos Perez <charlie_bear_love@…> wrote:
    > shouldn’t we all just stop talking about this guy’s
    > name? he’s
    > entitled to his opinion just like we are to ours,
    > and who are any of
    > you to criticize him? if he wants to be a nazi, so
    > what? if anyone
    > wants to complain and bitch, so what? leave him
    > alone and let him be
    > whoever he wants to be, which is exactly what all of
    > us ask. are we
    > so small minded that we can’t examine the actual
    > person himself and
    > not his name? how does that make us any different
    > from straight
    > people? and who or what gives us the right to tell
    > someone his
    > opinion is wrong or that they’re a bad person? we
    > should just stop
    > talking about this and let everyone have their own
    > opinion…privately.
    >
    >

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  • Avatar Image 8 years, 2 months said ago:

    From Jimmy:

    I have read all the messages reguarding this issue and I have to say
    one thing. LIGHTEN UP. We give too much power to words and phrases.
    Words don’t define us. We define them. It’s time to stop taking
    offense to every little thing because of the past. Hitler is dead.
    Germany lost both world wars. Yet we still act like he is alive.
    Slavery was abolished. yet some african amerians walk around like
    they are afraid of getting abducted back to a plantation. Both are
    over. It’s time to move on. I say if you want to flag, flag. If you
    want to call yourself a nazi then go ahead. if you want to go flag in
    a club with swastika flags( I would actually pay to see someone dare
    that one) then go ahead. People are entitled to their own views, but
    people are entitled to live their own lives. Live and let Live.

    Peace
    DJ Jimmy Sessom
    — In SpinTribe@yahoogroups.com, "Michael H. Lubetsky"
    <mlubetsky@h…> wrote:
    > Wes: I think that Jimmy’s comments are completely appropriate to
    be shared
    > with the group. Someone who enters a public discussion casually
    bearing the
    > moniker of an organisation which exterminated millions of people
    deserves a
    > public rebuke. I add that the Nazis’ sadism and bloodlust
    specifically
    > targeted gay people, who make up a large percentage of the
    SpinTribe
    > community. Jimmy’s offense is fully justified and and I suspect
    shared by
    > many.
    >
    > Fred: I am sure that you chose the term "Nazi" simply to emphasize
    your
    > zeal for flagging, and don’t have any desire to toss gays, Jews,
    and gypsies
    > into gas chambers. Nevertheless, this is what "Naziism" stands
    for, and I
    > would ask to consider changing your handle. How on earth would you
    react if
    > someone showed up at a club spinning a pair of red flags emblazoned
    with
    > black swastikas?
    >
    > –Mike
    >
    > "There’s only now, there’s only this.
    > Forget regret, or life is yours to miss.
    > No other road, no other way,
    > NO DAY BUT TODAY!"
    > (Rent)
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > >From: "flagnazi2003" <flagnazi2003@y…>
    > >Reply-To: SpinTribe@yahoogroups.com
    > >To: SpinTribe@yahoogroups.com
    > >Subject: [SpinTribe] Re: Flaggerboy Website
    > >Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 01:38:38 -0000
    > >
    > >Apologies, no offense intended.
    > >
    > >Fred
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >— In SpinTribe@yahoogroups.com, "Wes" <wesedwards@a…> wrote:
    > > > Was that really necessary to "share" with the group?
    > > >
    > > > Wes
    > > >
    > > > — In SpinTribe@yahoogroups.com, jim riordan <riojimmy@y…>
    > >wrote:
    > > > > Flagnazi
    > > > > your name offends me
    > > > > I do not wish to be connected "in spirit" or otherwise to
    anyone
    > > > who would choose to use such a hateful noun.
    > > > >
    > > > > –jimmy
    > > > >
    > > > > flagnazi2003 <flagnazi2003@y…> wrote:
    > > > > Phillip:
    > > > >
    > > > > What a beautiful website. It has it all. And the more people
    > >who
    > > > > create a space on it the more it will have.
    > > > >
    > > > > http://www.flaggerboy.com
    > > > >
    > > > > Thanks for the communal spirit.
    > > > >
    > > > > Fred
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  • Avatar Image 8 years, 2 months said ago:

    From Lee atOfoto:

    Jimmy,

    I’ve refrained from speaking on the subject up to now, but I’m finally
    moved from silence.

    Your point about the power of words is quite appropriate. I’m all for
    reclaiming words of ‘negative power’ and turning them back on their
    users. That’s a personal choice and empowers me to change my view.
    I’ll call myself a queer or a queen or a fag. My choice denies the
    abuser his power over me.

    However, it’s important to recognize that there are still people alive
    who suffered under Hitler, people who’s families were murdered, people
    who’s fathers died fighting the war the ended Hitler’s power. It’s
    important to recognize that to those people, the term "Nazi" continues
    invoke more than just textbook horror. It’s important to recognize
    that while the pain may not be real to you, it’s very real to them. I
    won’t tell them to reclaim that word, or just ‘get over it.’

    While I’m sure that the choice of screen name by the user in question
    wasn’t done in any effort to consciously hurt these people, it’s worth
    reminding the user that there are still people alive hurt by that
    power. In public forums where we try to speak to the power of healing
    and of joy, it seems sad to continue to use a name that reminds people
    of pain and personal loss.

    Lee

    On Mar 3, 2004, at 8:07 AM, Jimmy wrote:

    Words don’t define us. We define them. It’s time to stop taking
    offense to every little thing because of the past. Hitler is dead.
    Germany lost both world wars. Yet we still act like he is alive.

  • Avatar Image phillip8 years, 2 months said ago:

    Amanda,

    Thank you for your kind words. You and several other people have
    taken the time to tell me of your love of flagging and your personal
    history with the art. This is ***exactly*** what I’d hoped for when
    I started developing the site!

    Regards,
    Phillip

    — In SpinTribe@yahoogroups.com, Amanda Fetrow <afetrow@y…> wrote:
    > I would like to talk of Phillip’s website, I am so
    > happy that someone has put together a site where
    > flaggers are able to create their own profile and
    > interact with other flaggers on a different medium.
    > I love spin tribe because it allows me to stay
    > connected with the community. The flaggerboy website
    > allows me to see everyone and learn more about them,
    > their style, what drew them to the art, and who
    > inspired them.. I believe that Phillip has created
    > something truely beautiful!
    >
    >
    > Amanda

  • Avatar Image 8 years, 2 months said ago:

    From Jon Brown:

    Hi Phillip!
    Jon Brown, here…remember me?

    How are you doing?
    Your site looks great….and you’re living in Houston now?
    How’s life?

    I live in Orlando now and love it here.

    I’ll have to see if I can get a gig in Houston, soon!

    Hope you’re well!

    Jon Brown

    —–Original Message—–
    From: Phillip Bryan [mailto:phillipabryan@...]
    Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 8:15 PM
    To: SpinTribe@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [SpinTribe] Re: Flaggerboy website

    Amanda,

    Thank you for your kind words. You and several other people have
    taken the time to tell me of your love of flagging and your personal
    history with the art. This is ***exactly*** what I’d hoped for when
    I started developing the site!

    Regards,
    Phillip

    — In SpinTribe@yahoogroups.com, Amanda Fetrow <afetrow@y…> wrote:
    > I would like to talk of Phillip’s website, I am so
    > happy that someone has put together a site where
    > flaggers are able to create their own profile and
    > interact with other flaggers on a different medium.
    > I love spin tribe because it allows me to stay
    > connected with the community. The flaggerboy website
    > allows me to see everyone and learn more about them,
    > their style, what drew them to the art, and who
    > inspired them.. I believe that Phillip has created
    > something truely beautiful!
    >
    >
    > Amanda

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  • Avatar Image phillip8 years, 2 months said ago:

    Hi Jon,
     
    ‘course I remember you!  Saturdays at the Saloon wouldn’t have been the same without your uplifting tunes.
     
    Glad you are enjoying Orlando.  I’m hoping to return there for Gay Days this year.  Are you still spinning?  Where do you work these days?
     
    I’m actually in Dallas.  I travel a lot, and will probably be in Houston for Easter.  Our flagging workshop last weekend went well, and we may be taking to other Texas cities.  So…if you get a gig, go for Dallas!
     
    But for *your* sake, I’d recommend Rich’s or South Beach in Houston–much better spaces!
     
    Regards,
    Phillip
    who?


    Phillip Bryan
    Email: phillip@…
    Visit: http://www.flaggerboy.com


    —– Original Message —–
    From: Jon Brown
    To: SpinTribe@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 7:21 PM
    Subject: RE: [SpinTribe] Re: Flaggerboy website

    Hi Phillip!
    Jon Brown, here…remember me?

    How are you doing?
    Your site looks great….and you’re living in Houston now?
    How’s life?

    I live in Orlando now and love it here.

    I’ll have to see if I can get a gig in Houston, soon!

    Hope you’re well!

    Jon Brown

  • Avatar Image Amanda Fetrow8 years, 2 months said ago:

    You are so very welcome!  You have definatly created a site that allows one to feel like part of a “family”.  And for me that’s what it’s all about, coming together to spin the rags and have a good time!
     
    Amanda
     

    Phillip Bryan <phillipabryan@…> wrote:

    Amanda,

    Thank you for your kind words.  You and several other people have
    taken the time to tell me of your love of flagging and your personal
    history with the art.  This is ***exactly*** what I’d hoped for when
    I started developing the site!

    Regards,
    Phillip

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